rumblefish360 said: If the K is fine, leave it alone. Going . It seems like a weird problem to have. by jopa Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:57 pm, Post I lack the time and place right now. Long term consists of making it fun while keeping it a daily. it will work with minor changes. This is a popular area for discussion. 273 / 318 to 340 /360 Slant 6 to Big Block Slant 6 to Small Block . Your transmission has a slant 6 bolt pattern, and so will only bolt to the 170/198/225 slant series of engines. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright . I assume longer is 4 brl and shorter is 2 brl . As for wheels, if you plan disc brakes, you will get 5X4.5 hubs. Just what do I need to change out the 6? thanks John Schumacher Creative Services, Inc. 951.440.8340 Whatever you're thinking about doing from routine maintenance to full-on restoration, odds are somebody around here already has. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 318 swap? We started Magnumswap.com to provide low-cost high horsepower small block options to Mopar Enthusiasts. Copyright 2023, Schumacher Creative Services Inc. - Engine Swaps. slant six and 318 bellhousings are different. 3.9 tbi to 5.9 carb, 2wd. The engine compartment is too small and one problem leads to another. Locate the correct brackets and insulators and bolt it up. Engine Swap Motor Mounts. . They're about $20. I think the tranny is ok, cause my brother did this same swap in his Duster and I don't remember him swapping out the tranny. The 8 1/4 rear will hold up to a street 318. Thanks Guys! The 318 and /6 radiator necks come out in different locations - so a radiator will be needed. You have to use the right clutch! 1978 W150 Ex Cab 360 2bbl/727/NP203/D44-8.25, swap oil pan to truck, dont forget to change the dip stick too, engine mounts change to truck, change water pump to trucks, radiator inlet is on the wrong side change it over to trucks, the ecm or computer I think it worked but change it over too, hoses , trans swap it over to A casting , starter is the same, alt is the same , get the pulleys and brackets, throttle cable is a little long swap it over . Location. Make your engine swap easier with this motor mount swap set. the only things i did with the 318 was header,vc(for the oil cap)dip stick & tube from the other trans. I did the Slant 6 to 318 swap a few years back. Top. Connecting rods and pistons are going to be stock 225 pistons and rods. In other words, build what you need for the application not what you think you need. Gen III HEMI Swap Shop. I have a 1980 Volare Duster and recently decided I want to do a slant six to 318 swap. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Works on vehicleswith or without power steering. Install a 273/318, or 340/360 with our spool mount conversion that positions a V8 engine to factory specs on your original '73 and up A, B, F, M, J-Body (and '74 & up C-Body) Slant 6 K-member. Also I haven't bought anything for the swap just yet on account that I lack 2 of the 3 main things you need to do just about anything major to a car. BC Champion 3 Row Radiator for 1965 1966 Plymouth Valiant Slant 6 Engine #CC6566. originally equipped with a Slant 6. Swapping Engines in a 100$ Slant 6 Plymouth Volare - YouTube Theres one easy way to get rid of rod knock.. drop in a new (used) (million mile) engine. $692.99. A 76, I would put valve seals in it and mabe a timing chain set. (1) Left LS Swap Motor Mount. Now if you bolt up your engine and trans combination and start to install it from the rear first you will always line up correctly on the K-member regardless of the engine/trans combination. The distance on all transmissions from the crossmember mount to the front of the bellhousing or case is exactly 22.66 inches. This reduces chamber volume from 54 to 44cc and bumps compression from 8.4 to 9.2:1 with stock flat-top pistons. Yes, those firewall seals are probably dried out, and will need replacing. The /6 trans won't work. . For more info, go to - god site, lots of info you will need. Used Schu's on my HEMI, good quality stuff. GM LS Engine to Small Block Chevy Chassis. Thanks! in a 1974 dodge dart. I've used the trans-dapt kit on my Dart, everything bolted in nice and the engine placement was in the right spot. i used the pan,mounts,water pump,dipstick and tube from the van. 33293 Views 18 Replies 14 Participants Last post by Swampwalker3, . It is easy to do all this. It would be best to have a parts car to access for those things you miss. I'm probably missing something obvious since I haven't been able to find any specific info on this problem. are you guys sure, i heard a few people say that they have done the swap, they used the conversion motor mounts and used the same tranny/rearend. To view the purposes they believe they have legitimate interest for, or to object to this data processing use the vendor list link below. I think mounting to the crossmember is the same. they are the same. except i had an auto. Small Block Positive battery cable and neutral safety switch harness. a stock 318 will put out maybe 175-200 hp. just find one with a318/360 and there is the rest of your brackets for conversion also.using the shumacker mounts on f body requires grinding on your 6 cyl k frame which it end ever reusing with a 6 again. In particular a Chrysler Flathead 6 (in my case a stock 251) to a SB Chrysler (in my case a LA 318) engine swap. It is currently a 225 slant with a 2bbl carb and an A230 3 speed manual trans on the floor with a 7.25 rear and a 2.76 gear. both of which use the big block bolt pattern. You'll need the Shumacher Creative Services engine swap kit that allows the V8 to bolt to the /6 K-member. First of all, what transmission came stock in a 74 Duster slant six car? There are no products listed under this category. Swapping a 6 cyl. how much work to swap out the engine to the six?..am new to dodgesb so bear with me. 5.9 Magnum powered Dodge Dart with the wheels up! Product # MN1962. Details. So, in reality, the best thing to do then is to find a donor A body with the drive-train I want to ensure I have the correct parts to do the swap. JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The Slant-Six head can safely withstand a 0.100 thousandths deck cut. ?- truck is a 68 w200 with a NP 435, hydraulic clutch, etc. The units are available for a . I'm looking to swap a 318 into my slant 6 Volare and need the Schumacher kit or a V8 K frame to do it. I'm basically trying to keep my costs as minimal as possible. I need a replacement engine and I was thinking about getting a newer model 360 to put in it, one that is fuel injected. I would like to know what all will and will not be needed in order to do so. Daniel Defense firearms, parts and accessories. ?- truck is a 68 w200 with a NP 435, hydraulic clutch, etc. It's the perfect engine for Mopar's early A-Body cars like a 1964 Valiant Station Wagon or a 1966 Barracuda. The splines are the same.it may work or it may not. 1967-72 Mopar A-Body Slant 6 To 340Ci / 360Ci Small Block Motor Swap Mount Set. $796.94. There's a good chance the car has a 7.25" axle if it was a slant 6 car. That's my 500" 440, I used the M1 intake before witch is lower. NOTE: The driver's side mounting perch on the '73 & Up K-member interferes with any V8 block and B/RB oil pump. by Daddiojoe Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:28 am, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited, **OPEN TECHNICAL HELP FOR ALL SWEPTLINE MODELS AND PROBLEMS**, My 318 is a tired- am considering swapping into the truck a 225 slant six- how much work?? What's the difference between the 22 and the 26 when it comes to performance for a 318, Ok just to get an idea, would you be willing to sell me a 26 and the brackets for it when the time comes? Set includes: Engine mount brackets Engine mounts Hardware Made in USA . the salvage yards are full of 5th aves and diplomats grand fury's. An example of data being processed may be a unique identifier stored in a cookie. Don't dive in until you have most all the parts you will need. Lol, 1st you prob. You will need the motor mount brackets. thanks John, 1971 4-eyed Shortbed D100 225 /6 727 AT 3.23 rear running on Sweet Lady Propane, *SUSPENSION/BRAKES/STEERING/TIRES HELP*. Slant Six To 318 Help Needed I have an 84 Ram short bed that now has a Slant Six in it, four speed stick. The 904 trans from the slant 6 will not work Schumacher makes motor V-8 mounts for /6 k-frames. New cables are available. JavaScript is disabled. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. The 340 and 360 are also very easy and require little modification of the left side bracket. Note: The mounts can be shifted somewhat front-to-back (to allow the transmission mount to align with the transmission mount crossmember) and . 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The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. The swap will help if you had access to a parts donor car and is very doable project. The /6 and 318 transmission cooler lines will be bent differently. i used a904 with manual reverse valv bodyand tci 3500 converter. the six was original the 318 is a 1988, where can I find - Answered by a verified Classic Car Mechanic . Classic set. MSRP $175.99 set. I lost the folder that had all of the details on throttle cables. I don't plan on getting a v8 k frame, and I kinda figured I'd need a bigger radiator but didn't know what size. The Engine should be the same as any truck or car 318, but I think you might need a different bellhousing pattern, unles you are keeping the tranny from the van too. I noticed the 318 has an Electric Fuel Pump, and I was wondering if anyone has ever done this, I want to know if the wiring . I'm not familiar with slant-6 trucks, but the 318/360/400 & cummins all mount to the same suspension cross members. AU$169.00. At 59.2 . Add to Wishlist. For the most part at least. View All. Just a matter of getting the engine and bellhousing. Is it a 2v or 4v carb? 1984. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Where the outlaws live. The engine starts easily and runs well, but of course it doesn't have a heck of a lot of power. View Details. An example of data being processed may be a unique identifier stored in a cookie. The splines are the sameit may work or it may not. You also need to check on the throttle linkages and kickdown linkages, because I think vans and trucks use different linkage. Somebody please list out the parts needed so I can start buying. also an early b body 8.75 rear will drop wright in in place of the wimpy f body rear. Every thing goes in smooth. Use the brackets and insulators from a 273 and bolt in a 273, or 318. Simply locate the correct brackets and insulators and bolt them in. I also already have a V8 K frame from a 72 that has been refinished and ready to go, but the car is a 73. 1967-72 A-Body V8 273/318 Replacement or Upgrade Kit. how much work to swap out the engine to the six?..am new to dodgesb so bear with me. I just got used 318 a body mounts off a guy. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. FWIW, upgrade your radiator to a brand new radiator if you can and be ahead of the game. Rock Auto is one source. It's definitely not a bolt in deal. take your time and get your workspace ready. Add to Cart. The 318 is a rebuild and the 87 Ram is just too rusty to let that 318 waste. So aside from the bear minimum of the engine itself, a radiator, bell housing , drilled crankshaft, and the engine mounts, the rest of it is pretty much the same for slants vs 318s? I want to replace the 6 with either a 318 or 360. This easier to do before engine install - than afterwards. Your slant six either has a 9.25" 23-spline or 10" 23-spline clutch. If I remember correctly the cable gets a gentle loop with a turn to the carb, I can't imagine using a shorter cable. The np 435 uses the 11" clutch, the A833 and A833OD use the 10.5" clutch. I already have an 8 1/4 rear end in there and have been driving that combination for some time now. Ideally the swap kit. OER MA2264A 1973-76 Fits Mopar A-Body Fits V8 318 Repl Radiator. You are using an out of date browser. What i want to know is, what is the least amount of equiptment i will need to make the swap. Convert the ignition with a conversion kit while your swapping things. There are three basic combinations with this body style. What model transmission is it? Positions a Big Block 383, 400 or 440 engine to factory specs on your original Slant 6 '73 and up A, B, F, M, J-Body (and '74 & up C-Body) K-member while still retaining the bullet-proof quality of Chrysler originals. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. A few things to keep in mind. A forum community dedicated to all Dodge owners and enthusiasts. Headers and bracket kits are designed specifically for your Charger, Dart, Cuda, Challenger, Valiant, and many others. I had a Valiant slant 6 and ended up selling it, just didn't make me smile enough. banditluda said. $151.95. It is currently a 225 slant with a 2bbl carb and an A230 3 speed manual trans on the floor with a 7.25 rear and a 2.76 gear. The consent submitted will only be used for data processing originating from this website. There was no rush, so, why not relax and set it up. Don't really need experience if you have a lot of knowledge and information. Yes! You can actually swap to a V8 K frame and bolt in a V8 with factory parts. It does well enough empty, but when pulling a trailer or with a load in the back it doesn't like hills. Six cylinder conversions will require the change to the V-8 K-member. Worked hard at it. ihated bending the NEW headers on the passenger side becaause they ratteled against the frame.save yourself the trouble and swap kmembers and even use the m body motor mounts as well. The best setup for a Slant 6 would be a set of Molnar long rods and a matching set of Wiseco pistons, but running those would cost about $1,200 in parts. Even better: if you can take a couple of pictures of your existing engine compartment I can see if there anything else I may have forgotten. 1981 D150 'Slant Six to 440 Swap' . Stay away from big blocks in this body. To do the swap you need to cut out the 6cyl frame mounts and weld in V8 frame mounts from a donor car or make your own. We and our partners use data for Personalised ads and content, ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. 3. linkage. Just different rubber mounts. A third alternative, though it requires more skill, would be to cut the ears off the slant 6 subframe and weld them in the location for the V8. it was pretty easy everything bolted up. JavaScript is disabled. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Is this a bolt in swap or is it more??? There are three basic combinations with this body style. It might hold up behind a mild 318 but I'd plan on eventually replacing it with an 8.25" rear axle. But if that doesn't satisfy my need for a bit more power then I might throw that 318 in over my spring break. Jan 21, 2013. Engine pulleys and brackets (front of engine), Throttle cable(*) and Radiator is a maybe. The price of radiators have gone up sense last time I looked. Don't know if that 3-speed will bolt up to a V8 bellhousing. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I'm dry fitting my 318 block to my 72 k frame. and one things not right. '61-'71 Dodge Sweptline Truck Online Community, Post You can find a v-8 A body like yours, and whack the motor mounts out of it. The slant six transmissions are different from the v-8 ones, as well as the small block trannys are different from the big block ones. Also, aside from that, the mounting locations seem to be too wide. Manage Settings This makes engine swaps very easy, if you have a V-8 K-member. The V-8 used the same K member as the slant six. want the eng. Set includes: Engine mount brackets Engine mounts Hardware Made in USA Note: Motor mount conversion only; other parts required to complete conversion. Install a 273/318, or 340/360 with our spool mount conversion that positions a V8 engine to factory specs on your original '73 and up A, B, F, M, J-Body (and '74 & up C-Body) Slant 6 K-member. You have to use a small block v-8 transmission. Then there should be no problem save the mounts being crushed/worn. What model transmission is it? Transmission - If you go 727, the shift linkage you have will work, but the slant 6 kickdown will not. by Hobcobble Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:15 pm, Post Engine Conversion and Replacement Kit. Superspare; Oct 17, 2022; 1971 - 1974 Mopars; 2. You'll need a trans with a small block (273/318/340/360) or a big block (383/400/413/426/440) pattern to swap in one of those motors. Continue with Recommended Cookies. I plan on changing that in the future as well. It has a slant 6 witha manual overdrive tranny. Make your engine swap easier with this motor mount swap set. Np435 and 833 bellhousings are different. There are some easy swaps that require no K-member change. Designed to put a V8 engine into cars originally equipped with a slant 6. Check where the sump is in the oil pan--you may (or may not) need to swap them. I want to put the 318 into my D100 and keep the 4 speed. WARNING: Cancer and Reproductive Harm - www.P65Warnings.ca.gov. Plan it out first. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. When i did th swap on mine i used the slant 6 radiator. $118.99. 1967-72 A-Body V8 340/360 Replacement or Upgrade Kit. Ramchargers, Traildusters, Durangos and other SUVs, Rams, Power Wagons, D/W 50s, Dakotas and other tru. The mounts look like any of the pictures I've seen say they should. Just got a 1982 d150 stepside in VGC. I have headers and a four barrel intake for it that I will throw on soon. On this episode I pull the old slant. 85 Ram Slant 6 to 88 318 V8 Swap. I'm glad to have the cable I have now that I'm using the Eldelbrock Victor intake with a 1" spacer.